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		<title>Shorts (4): Football Team GB &#8211; I&#8217;ve got a better idea</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things that&#8217;s truly &#8216;great&#8217; about football in Britain (by which I actually mean all four nations of the UK, not just England) is the strength of the game at the grassroots. The literally thousands of amateur clubs that are kept going by the dedication of their coaches, the support of family members [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=304&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>One of the things that&#8217;s truly &#8216;great&#8217; about football in Britain (by which I actually mean all four nations of the UK, not just England) is the strength of the game at the grassroots. The literally thousands of amateur clubs that are kept going by the dedication of their coaches, the support of family members and the passions of their players; the vast structure of leagues and cup competitions at every level of the game, and for every age and, increasingly, gender. It&#8217;s these clubs that keep alive the true spirit of football, which provides a generally friendly way to fight out local rivalries, and a chance for young people to take out their aggression, keep fit and achieve a bit of glory.</p>
<p>The Olympics, too, was originally supposed to embody this spirit of amateur sport. It was supposed to be &#8211; and still is to some extent, even in Britain &#8211; about individuals who have a dream, and strive through sheer perseverance, skill and hard work to achieve it or at least give their all in the attempt. And it&#8217;s about friendly rivalry between nations &#8211; pointing the way to a world of peace in the more serious and vital affairs of life as well as in mere play.</p>
<p>All this trouble about a British Olympics football team is essentially because it&#8217;s got caught up in the turbulent national-identity politics of the present. Why not just cut through all of that and organise a mammoth all-UK amateur cup competition for the right to compete at the Olympics as &#8216;Team GB&#8217; &#8211; pitching teams from all four corners of the UK against each other: little village sides from Kent journeying up to farthest John O&#8217;Groats, if necessary, in order to progress to the next round; with a team from County Antrim slugging it out in Merthyr Tydfil. If the clubs need help with their travelling and other expenses, then they could get support from the same Lotto fund that is being ploughed into the Olympic facilities &#8211; given that it&#8217;s going towards the same event.</p>
<p>This could be a real amateur sporting affair, in keeping with the original spirit of both football and the Olympics as I&#8217;ve described it. This means the top amateur clubs like those in the English Blue Square League, which are in reality semi-professional, would be excluded.</p>
<p>This would give a chance for talented amateur sportsmen and -women from across the UK to go in pursuit of an amazing once-in-a-lifetime opportunity: to represent not just &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; but their community, village, town and, yes, nation (whether England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland) at the greatest sporting tournament on earth &#8211; well, the second after the Football World Cup! This wouldn&#8217;t in fact be <em>the </em>British Olympic football team but merely <em>a</em> British football team. I say &#8216;merely&#8217;; but in reality, this would be more truly and profoundly a British team than any meaningless Team GB packed with overpaid professional players for whom the Olympics did not mean much compared with tournaments like the Premier or Champions&#8217; Leagues. This would be something that passionate football enthusiasts from across Britain would have had to fight for.</p>
<p>A team comprising the &#8216;best&#8217; amateur club (or clubs, including the women&#8217;s team) in Britain (or at least the winner of the All-UK Challenge Cup) wouldn&#8217;t in any way compromise the status of the four separate national Football Associations. This is precisely because it wouldn&#8217;t be a / the &#8216;national-British&#8217; team, and because the separate national associations would all be engaged in organising the tournament and administering the participation of all &#8216;their&#8217; affiliated amateur clubs that were interested in taking part. Indeed, the clubs themselves would doubtless regard their clashes with clubs from <em>other</em> national associations as their own small-scale version of full international matches. So this would be an <em>international</em> amateur contest to select one lucky (or two including the women) representative team(s): a team <em>of</em> Britain and not <em>the </em>Britain Team.</p>
<p>And the point of all this is that it would mobilise a huge amount of support and goodwill from what is known as the &#8216;British public&#8217; &#8211; by which is meant the <em>people</em> of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The level of interest and enthusiasm would potentially be immense as local communities got behind their teams and the English / British love of the underdog was played out to the max. This really would be great and would truly bring to the fore the &#8216;best of British&#8217; &#8211; if not the <em>best British Team</em>. And above all, it would exhibit the long-lost idea of sport: that it&#8217;s not about the winning but the taking part.</p>
<p>But the powers that be are interested only in winning: winning medals, winning prestige for &#8216;Britain&#8217;, and winning the fight for a Football Team GB as they see it, whether the people want it or not. But contrast the enthusiastic backing that a &#8216;Team GB&#8217; selected the way I am proposing would generate to the devastation that could be wrought on the precious game of football by imposing a professional Team GB on us.</p>
<p>Football is, and could be even more, something that unites the different nations of the UK. If the government and the BOA get their way, it could become something that divides us, even to the extent of contributing to the eventual break-up of the UK if that is what is necessary to preserve our national teams and associations &#8211; because the demand for separation would surely grow enormously if the footballing heart of our four nations was ripped out and stuck to the badge of Britain, instead of being worn with pride on the shirtsleeves of amateur FCs from throughout our islands.</p>
<p>If you think this is a good idea, let me know &#8211; and I&#8217;ll suggest it to those said &#8216;powers that be&#8217;. How about the BOA, the (English) FA and 10 Downing Street for starters!</p>
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		<title>Shorts (3): Would a football Team GB be illegal?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see another English government minister (the Sports Minister &#8211; for England only &#8211; Gerry Sutcliffe) has been sticking his oar in where he is neither qualified nor welcome to speak, insisting that: &#8220;A Great Britain football team will take part in the London 2012 Olympics even if it consists entirely of English players&#8221;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I see another <em>English</em> government minister (the Sports Minister &#8211; for England only &#8211; Gerry Sutcliffe) has been <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/10/great-britain-football-team-2012-olympics" target="_blank">sticking his oar in </a>where he is neither qualified nor welcome to speak, insisting that: &#8220;A Great Britain football team will take part in the London 2012 Olympics even if it consists entirely of English players&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Mr Sutcliffe feels he has any jurisdiction in the matter, as his governmental responsibilities for sport, and hence for football, are limited to England, not &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; or the UK. But this sort of overstepping of legally defined areas of competency may be required to force through a football Team GB against the wishes of the Football Associations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and the supporters of all four national UK teams, including those of <a href="http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/index.php" target="_blank">England</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering whether any decision to go ahead with an all-English Team GB would be open to legal challenge on at least two, possibly three grounds:</p>
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<li>The FA&#8217;s (that is, the English FA&#8217;s) <a href="http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/TheOrganisation/" target="_blank">constitution </a>limits its responsibilities to &#8220;all regulatory aspects of the game of football in England&#8221;. I read this to mean that the FA is not legally entitled or even authorised by its own rules to select or regulate anything such as a &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; football team.</li>
<li>Team GB itself is selected by the <a href="http://www.olympics.org.uk/contentpage.aspx?page=127" target="_blank">British Olympic Association</a> &#8220;in conjunction with the governing bodies, from the best sportsmen and women&#8221;. The reference to the &#8216;governing bodies&#8217; means the governing bodies in the UK for the relevant sports. Those for football are listed as the FA and the associations for Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Therefore, if the BOA and the FA ignore the unwillingness of the SFA, FAW and IFA respectively to put forward names of their countrymen and -women for selection for Team GB - and even to recognise the validity of such a team - I would have thought this would be open to legal challenge on the grounds of flouting the established rules for selecting Team GB.</li>
<li>This could also potentially be challenged on the grounds of discrimination: the BOA and FA could be accused of discrimination if they excluded Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish footballers from being selected. If, on the other hand, they did pick footballers from those countries who made it clear they wanted to be considered, this could be regarded as undermining the legally recognised authority of the national associations to regulate the game in their countries. Of course, accusing the BOA and the FA of discrimination in this way could backfire on the other associations, who could also be accused of discrimination for making their compatriots ineligible. However, such a legal challenge, if it were taken out by the BOA or FA, could also be viewed as questioning the authority of the associations to regulate the professional game in their countries. So the whole thing could get incredibly messy!</li>
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<p>Maybe if the FA and the BOA persist in their offensive insistence on an unwanted football Team GB, legal action of the types I suggest might be the way to block it. The whole thing could drag on for years, making it impossible to proceed with plans, preparations and appointments for any eventual team.</p>
<p>Might be worth considering if the worst comes to the worst.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the BBC, David Cameron has suggested there should be a Home Nations football tournament to decide which of the UK&#8217;s nations should provide the football Team GB (or should that be Team UK?) at the 2012 Olympics. As the Tory leader said: &#8220;Maybe the answer is to have a home tournament, see who [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=258&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7718728.stm" target="_blank">According to the BBC</a>, David Cameron has suggested there should be a Home Nations football tournament to decide which of the UK&#8217;s nations should provide the football Team GB (or should that be Team UK?) at the 2012 Olympics. As the Tory leader said: &#8220;Maybe the answer is to have a home tournament, see who wins and that team goes forward, but for the Olympics we&#8217;ve got to settle this so there is a representative team&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well, Cameron (or at least the BBC report) has got one thing right: it would indeed be a Home <em>Nations</em> tournament &#8211; nice to see that expression coming back into currency. However, might I suggest a small but significant modification to Cameron&#8217;s idea: it should be the team that <em>loses</em> the tournament that gets to represent Great Britain, not the one that wins it! That&#8217;ll really motivate the Scots to beat the Auld Enemy!</p>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex Salmond is not just a superb tactician; he&#8217;s a master of strategy, too. At first, I thought his reiterated statement on Saturday that Scotland should have its own Olympics team was just a clever tactical response to the calls for a Team GB (or UK) football team for the 2012 Olympics. What better way, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=161&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Alex Salmond is not just a superb tactician; he&#8217;s a master of strategy, too. At first, I thought his reiterated statement on Saturday that Scotland should have its own Olympics team was just a clever tactical response to the calls for a Team GB (or UK) football team for the 2012 Olympics. What better way, after all, to protect the existence of a separate Scottish football team and association than to have the entire Olympic team under the banner of Scotland, thereby &#8217;scotching&#8217; efforts to have Scottish footballers playing for Team GB? This is an example of what I wrote about in my last post: the nationalist backlash to the other GB&#8217;s [Gordon Brown's] efforts to engineer a football Team GB for 2012 and, who knows, permanently deprive the UK&#8217;s nations of their separate national football teams as a consequence. The more GB pushes the issue, the more the SNP will insist on a Scottish Olympic team, knowing they&#8217;ll enlist more and more support for the idea, the more Scots feel their cherished football team is under threat!</p>
<p>But I think Salmond is playing for higher strategic stakes: he actually seriously wants a Scottish Olympic team for 2012 – whether independence has been achieved by then or not – and is not just using the proposal as a bargaining chip to get GB to drop his insistence on a GB football side. GB, Seb Coe and the unionist establishment know they need to act fast and capitalise on the supposed waves of enthusiasm that Team Britannia is currently ruling! This is because the recognition of the four national UK Football Associations by football&#8217;s international body FIFA creates a precedent that could be exploited by the Scottish Government in any application to the International Olympic Committee for a separate Scottish Olympic team. If FIFA recognises that Scotland is a distinct nation and therefore allows it to have its own team, why shouldn&#8217;t the IOC? So the longer the idea of a football Team GB is challenged, the greater is the opportunity for the Scots to press for an Olympic Team Scotland.</p>
<p>Think what a disaster that would be for GB and his chums! The 2012 Olympics is supposed to be a massive showcase to demonstrate to the world that Great Britain is both a great and united kingdom (the verbal confusion here is deliberate!): successful (as demonstrated by the coveted medal haul), confident, dynamic, multi-cultural. Above all, GB wants it to become a narrative that will convince not only the world but the people of &#8216;this country&#8217; itself that Great Britain (or the UK) actually is one nation: the &#8216;tribal&#8217; national loyalties of its citizens, as most powerfully evidenced by its separate football teams, definitively overcome in a representation of &#8216;great Britishness&#8217; in which the people of Britain will come together – will be present to themselves – and their existence <em>as</em> Great Britain will be confirmed in the admiring gaze of the assembled global audience.</p>
<p>What a farce, by contrast, if a separate Team Scotland poops the party and does its utmost (to quote GB&#8217;s school motto) to demonstrate that Scotland is a proud nation distinct from Great Britain, or whatever Team GB would be called at that point. What would it be called, in fact? I bet they&#8217;d try to get away with still calling it &#8216;Team GB&#8217;, even though – without Scotland – Great Britain no longer exists. I suppose technically, if Scotland hadn&#8217;t yet achieved political independence but only Olympic autonomy, they could argue that Great Britain still existed. In fact, Team GB might include some Scots in 2012, as their official nationality would still be British. However, they might be obliged to call it Team UK on the same grounds as the continuing British state post-Scottish independence would be called the United Kingdom (of England, Wales and Northern Ireland?) – even though such a nation also would not yet exist in 2012 if Scotland hadn&#8217;t yet quit the Union.</p>
<p>What a mess, indeed! This would totally destroy any pretence that &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; actually exists as a nation, which is what is ultimately at stake. Salmond wants to shatter that illusion in front of all the world and wants to spark off Scottish-national fervour by the spectacle of that country&#8217;s bravehearts doing battle against the &#8216;British&#8217; (i.e. the English): depriving them of an even greater tally of medals than they achieved with the participation of the Scots in Beijing and – who knows? – even competing <em>against</em> Team GB in the football! Maybe Salmond realises that he&#8217;s not going to get away with a Scottish-independence referendum till after the Olympics: he may have difficulty gaining support for it in the Scottish Parliament until after the next Scottish general election in 2011; and by that point, the unionists may have succeeded in talking up the importance of not causing a national humiliation ahead of the Olympics. However, if Scots are competing proudly as a distinct nation in the London Olympics, what a wonderful symbol that could offer of a new, vibrant Scotland freed from the restrictions of Westminster rule! Hold a snap referendum shortly after a successful Olympics, and then Scotland could be independent and organise its own showcase sporting spectacular – the 2014 Glasgow Commonwealth Games – in which the existence of separate national teams for the four nations of the UK has somehow, inconsistently, never been challenged in any case.</p>
<p>But what of the football Team UK itself? In GB&#8217;s [Gordon Brown's] <a href="http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prime-Minister-Gordon-Brown-Backs-2012-British-Football-Team-At-Olympics/Article/200808415085382?f=rss">Sky TV interview</a> on Saturday, he spelt out that it would indeed be a Team UK, not Team GB. In my post on Saturday, I speculated that the insistence on the UK might be in deference to the players (and, indeed, the Association) of Northern Ireland, to whose participation it might be something of an insult if the team were still designated as GB. Speculating somewhat, could it be that FIFA president Sepp Blatter, in his discussions with GB, insisted that it should be referred to as a / the UK team? The logic behind this is that either the UK has four national teams or one national team that fully represents the same four nations, and which therefore has to be a UK side not a Great Britain team. Obviously, if Scotland decamps before 2012 – either sportingly or politically, too – this makes the question academic.</p>
<p>However, assuming Salmond&#8217;s strategy or dream of a Team Scotland doesn&#8217;t come to fruition, any actual Team UK would probably end up being – yes, you&#8217;ve guessed it – an England team, or perhaps an England + Northern Ireland team if unionist pressure in the Province succeeded in persuading the IFA to take part. Incidentally, this combination would again &#8216;justify&#8217; the &#8216;UK&#8217; tag. This doomsday scenario, from an England supporter&#8217;s perspective, is due to the fact that it&#8217;s hard to see the Scottish Football Association, the Football Association of Wales or, indeed, popular opposition in those countries being swayed to the idea of a Team UK. If those associations were persuaded or coerced into participating, then there really would be a possibility that their right to exist as separate national bodies – and hence, the existence of separate national teams – would be seriously under threat; which is something they are well aware of. This danger is in part a consequence of the logic behind a Team UK I outlined above: either four UK-national teams or one national-UK team encompassing the four nations, which is possibly FIFA&#8217;s own logic.</p>
<p>In this context, I had an interesting afternoon yesterday following all the coverage on BBC Radio Five Live while carrying out a long and tedious bank-holiday chore. They were actually broadcasting from Edinburgh, so there were multiple references to and discussions of Sean Connery&#8217;s and Alex Salmond&#8217;s voicing of support for a separate Scottish Olympic team; while they also kept tracking the progress of the BA &#8216;Pride&#8217; aircraft bringing the victorious Team GB back home from Beijing. There were lots of live and recorded interviews with politicians and sports personalities. One of them was with Tony Blair&#8217;s former (English) Sports Minister Richard Caborn, who said he had been present at Gordon Brown&#8217;s meeting with Sepp Blatter, and that Blatter had assured GB that the separate UK FAs would not be at risk if they helped organise a Team UK for 2012. Caborn even asserted that Brown had received written assurances to this effect. This was contrasted with a comment from – if I remember correctly – a member of the Scottish supporters&#8217; association, who said that when Sepp Blatter visited the SFA in March of this year, he had stated explicitly that the SFA would be very unwise to agree to a Team UK, as it could put their existence in jeopardy. Who do you believe? Better to be safe than sorry, I would say!</p>
<p>Another person they interviewed was Secretary of State for Culture, Media &amp; Sport (in England) Andy Burnham, who uttered highly predictable remarks about how &#8216;the country&#8217;s&#8217; Olympic success made one proud to be British, while making a muddled defence of the proposal for a Team UK. He said that it was right that young people &#8220;from all four corners of Great Britain&#8221; (err, shouldn&#8217;t that be the UK, Mr Burnham?) should have the opportunity to play for &#8216;their country&#8217; at the Olympics. Asked whether he thought there would be much support for a Scotland Olympic team, he stated that he didn&#8217;t think there was a lot of support for this idea in &#8216;the country&#8217;; by which he appeared to mean &#8216;Great Britain&#8217;, although the only country whose support for the proposal is of any relevance is Scotland. And then he came out with the wisdom that, in any case, he felt British first and foremost, and then English only secondarily. Well, firstly, I don&#8217;t believe that: it&#8217;s the kind of thing that only an English unionist could say, and it reflects a traditional anglocentric view of the Union. And secondly, one was tempted to say to him (and maybe I did shout it at the radio!), &#8216;well, in that case, go and create your British football team, if you like; just leave our English team for those of us (in the majority, I feel – at least, the footballing majority) who feel English first and foremost, and British less and less. Now that&#8217;s a thought: separate Britain and England football teams – no more illogical, although fantastical, than the more realistic prospect of separate Teams Scotland and UK in 2012!</p>
<p>In any case, Mr Burnham was speaking out of turn as far as a Team UK is concerned: since sport is a devolved matter, his responsibilities in the area are officially limited to England. And that, incidentally, is another reason why a Team Scotland is a realistic possibility: as the Scottish Government is responsible for sport in that country, there is no reason why it should not campaign and apply for separate Olympic status, in keeping with the distinct nation status the British government itself conferred upon it through devolution.</p>
<p>And this really is the hub of the matter. The Scottish-nationalist position is logically consistent, whether you agree with it or not: it&#8217;s based on the unquestioned premise that Scotland <em>is</em> a distinct nation and, as such, has a right to separate national sports teams, both Olympian and footballing. It&#8217;s this sort of confident assertion of Scottish national identity that informed <a href="http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sean-Connery-backs-a-Scottish.4423961.jp">Sean Connery&#8217;s words</a> yesterday: &#8220;Scotland should always be a stand-alone nation at whatever, I believe&#8221;. By contrast, there is no such unwavering certainty about &#8216;Great Britain&#8217;&#8217;s nation status. In fact, it&#8217;s neither a nation (as it&#8217;s a kingdom encompassing two nations, or three if you include Wales) nor a state. Gordon Brown and all the Great Britishers ardently dream of Britain taking on the status of a nation; and a separate Team Scotland would give the lie to that. The British <em>state</em>, as opposed to nation, is the UK; and, unpacking what I assume to be Sepp Blatter&#8217;s Team-UK logic, he&#8217;s offering the option of either four teams for four nations, or one team for one state (the UK).</p>
<p>The solution? Transfer the nation status of England, Scotland and Wales (and, ambiguously, Northern Ireland; hence the vacillation between GB and UK) – as embodied in their separate football teams – onto &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; by creating a single, united GB team; as if, in the process, the separate national loyalties and identities of the English, Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish could also be transferred over and merged. This does appear to be the delusional and vain hope of all the passionate advocates of a Great Britain football team, who enviously eye up the even greater passion with which the UK nations&#8217; supporters follow their football teams, and who say to themselves, &#8216;if only we could have all of that passion and national fervour behind Team GB in the greatest sporting event &#8220;this country&#8221; has ever held&#8217;! Some hope! It shows gross ignorance of football and condescension towards the people of the UK nations to think their loyalties could so easily and glibly be transformed.</p>
<p>(In passing, let me just express my indignation at the 2012 Olympics being characterised as the greatest sporting event Britain will ever have put on: this was the 1966 World Cup, of course. Another thing Andy Burnham said that I took issue with was when he described Team GB&#8217;s Beijing Olympics performance as the greatest sporting success he can recollect &#8216;this country&#8217; having achieved since he was a child in the 1970s. Wrong again, Mr Burnham, it was the 2003 Rugby World Cup. I can&#8217;t speak for Scotland or Wales in these matters; nor can you.)</p>
<p>So the absence of a Great British football team stands as a glaring insult in the face of the British &#8216;project&#8217; – as Lord Coe refers to it – that is Team GB and the 2012 Olympics. The game which, in GB&#8217;s <a href="http://britologywatch.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/footballs-coming-home-to-britain-gb-backs-team-uk-for-the-2012-olympics/">words at the weekend</a>, &#8220;[Britain] gave to the world&#8221; [sic], refuses to play ball and deny a century and a half of sporting rivalries, and centuries more of national rivalries and competition. &#8216;Surely, the Olympic spirit should overcome such nationalism&#8217;, Seb Coe was reported as saying at the weekend. But hang on, what are you saying? Is the Great Britain team in fact an example of the Olympic spirit bringing separate nations together, meaning that Great Britain is actually an <em>international</em> team. If so, then there should be no theoretical objection to us competing as separate England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland teams, in keeping with the traditions of sporting rivalry that have characterised both the UK and the Olympic movement throughout their history. Otherwise, if you followed Coe&#8217;s logic, there should be no national teams competing against each other at all, and the Olympics should be some multi-national, multi-cultural melting pot – rather similar, indeed, to the very image of Britain that they want to be realised in the London Olympics.</p>
<p>Oh sad, delusional GB! 2012 is a dream of a united nation of Great Britain: &#8216;the nation&#8217; that is said to be acclaiming its returning Olympic heroes but which can&#8217;t even decide on its name or composition. I&#8217;m sure it will be a great spectacle. But football – the true spirit of football, if not the English FA – won&#8217;t collude with the Great British lie.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking further about this issue, which erupted at the weekend with reports that GB [Gordon Brown] not only favours a football Team UK / GB for the 2012 Olympics but has talked to FIFA chairman Sepp Blatter about it, it seems to me that if GB and Seb Coe push this issue, they could be [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=159&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Thinking further about this issue, which erupted at the weekend with <a href="http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prime-Minister-Gordon-Brown-Backs-2012-British-Football-Team-At-Olympics/Article/200808415085382?f=rss" target="_blank">reports</a> that GB [Gordon Brown] not only favours a football Team UK / GB for the 2012 Olympics but has talked to FIFA chairman Sepp Blatter about it, it seems to me that if GB and <a href="http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/olympics/2008/08/23/lord-coe-urges-sfa-rethink-over-team-gb-86908-20708614/" target="_blank">Seb Coe</a> push this issue, they could be scoring a monumental own goal.</p>
<p>The idea of a Team UK for the Olympics, let alone the permanent replacement of our national sides by a Team UK &#8211; which <a href="http://northbritain.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/uk-olympic-football-team/" target="_blank">could be one of the consequences</a> &#8211; is hugely unpopular with football fans up and down the land<em><strong>s</strong></em> of Britain. Let&#8217;s not forget that supporting the England football team is the most popular socially acceptable manifestation of English nationalism, since patriotic English sentiment is stripped of any possibility of expression in civic society, public life and national institutions, which are all &#8216;British&#8217;. If you try to undermine this, you could get a massive popular backlash against the Britishness agenda. This is just if GB pushes the point but fails. But if the doomsday scenario of a Team UK actually materialised, think what a publicity nightmare it would be for the 2012 Olympics: mass protests before and during the Games; attempts to grab and extinguish the Olympic flame as it passed through British streets; crowds staying away from the Team UK matches, or turning up to protest and unfurl their Flags of St. George and Saltires! Come to think of it, this could be the one cause that would reunite Scots and English people, ironically in opposition to the UK!</p>
<p>Then imagine the horror of a Team UK being permanently inflicted on us, replacing the four national teams of the UK&#8217;s four nations! Hardly any real football fan would support it or turn up to the matches, for a start. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s exaggerating too much to say this could actually provide the spark that would ignite the final conflagration of the UK and its break up into its constituent parts: &#8216;if we can only have one team per nation, then let&#8217;s have four nations instead of the UK&#8217; would become a popular saying.</p>
<p>Think this is overstating it? Well, as I said in my last post, football is about more than mere football &#8211; it&#8217;s also highly political. Seb Coe certainly seems to think so, according to the report linked above: &#8220;The chairman of London 2012 insists the Olympic spirit is more powerful than Scottish or English nationalism&#8221;. So it&#8217;s not just about football or sport &#8211; it&#8217;s about defeating Scottish or English nationalism. QED.</p>
<p>All I can say, GB and Seb, is bring it on! We&#8217;ll provide more than a match for your Team GB!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for alerting me to this piece of news go to a comment from &#8217;Big Englander&#8217; on my last post on &#8216;Team GB&#8217; at the Beijing Olympics. GB &#8211; Gordon Brown, that is &#8211; has come out in favour of a &#8216;UK&#8217; (yes, UK, not GB) football team at the London Olympics in 2012. Apparently, according [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=155&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Thanks for alerting me to this piece of news go to a comment from &#8217;Big Englander&#8217; on my <a href="http://britologywatch.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/team-gbs-olympic-success-should-we-be-proud/" target="_blank">last post </a>on &#8216;Team GB&#8217; at the Beijing Olympics. GB &#8211; Gordon Brown, that is &#8211; has come out in favour of a &#8216;UK&#8217; (yes, UK, not GB) football team at the London Olympics in 2012. Apparently, according to the report on <a href="http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prime-Minister-Gordon-Brown-Backs-2012-British-Football-Team-At-Olympics/Article/200808415085382?f=rss" target="_blank">Sky News</a>, GB has already &#8220;met with head of FIFA Sepp Blatter, Olympic organisers and FA organisers in Britain in order to broker an agreement&#8221;. Watch out, lads; this looks serious.</p>
<p>Again according to the report, GB is quoted as saying, &#8220;I hope there will be a team by 2012. It will be team UK&#8221;. Could it be that GB has taken note of the criticisms &#8211; of which my last post was just one among many &#8211; of the use of &#8216;GB&#8217; for the name of the British team and of the country as a whole in the Olympics and, indeed, in his own paean of praise to team GB last weekend?</p>
<p>“I want to send my congratulations to Team GB on this golden weekend for British sport. Eight gold medals and seventeen medals in total in one weekend is a superb and unprecedented achievement. The whole country has been watching and has been thrilled by Team GB. We are immensely proud of what they have achieved so far, and inspired by their performance. Our Olympians’ talent and dedication represent the very best of Britain and we look forward to another great week of British sporting success”.</p>
<p>Are we now to conclude that the whole of the British team will be designated Team UK, not just the football team? This may come as quite a shock to the marketing bods at the British Olympic Association, which has been diligently building up the &#8216;brand&#8217; of Team GB since it was launched at Atlanta 1996 and is making it the centrepoint of its preparations for 2012! How would a Team UK for all the Olympic sports accommodate the delicate issue of Northern Irish athletes who elect to compete for Team Ireland (as it is in fact called)? Football is a sport where you could make an exception or, depending on how you look at it, where it would be unavoidable to make an exception. This is because football is one of the few sports with a mass following where there are separate Northern Irish and Eire teams. Therefore, to include Northern Irish footballers, some of whom might be very well known, in a four-nation team and still call it &#8216;Team GB&#8217; would make the anomaly of that name even more glaring and offensive &#8211; to unionists, at least.</p>
<p>GB&#8217;s justification of the Team UK idea is apt to make the blood of many an English patriot, and even that of not especially patriotic English football supporters, boil: &#8220;Britain is the home of football, which we gave to the world, and people will be surprised if there is an Olympic tournament in football and we are not part of it&#8221;. Yes, you read it right: football was invented in <em>Britain</em>, not England, as you may have read elsewhere; and GB wants the Olympics to be an occasion when &#8211; to adapt the lines in the Lightning Seeds&#8217; anthem for Euro 96 &#8211; &#8216;football&#8217;s coming home&#8217;. To Britain.</p>
<p>What amuses me particularly about this is that GB seems to have forgotten <a href="http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page13643" target="_blank">his words </a>in October 2007, when FIFA announced it was dropping its continental rotation system for allocating the World Cup, allowing England to prepare a bid to host the true greatest show on earth in 2018:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am delighted that FIFA have opened the door for the World Cup to come back to England. By 2018, it will be 52 years since England hosted the World Cup. The nation which gave football to the world deserves to have the greatest tournament back on these shores.</p>
<p>&#8220;If The FA decide to go ahead and bid for the tournament, they know they will have the full support of the Government behind them, and we will make it our mission to persuade other countries to back us in bringing the World Cup back to England.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, Mr Brown, <em>England</em> is the nation that gave football to the world, is it, not Britain? And you&#8217;re backing <em>England&#8217;s</em> bid to bring &#8220;the greatest tournament . . . back to England&#8221;. &#8216;Back home&#8217;, indeed. You could almost be mistaken for thinking Brown&#8217;s words here were those of an English First Minister. Sorry, they <em>are</em> the words of an English First Minister; only an unelected one who does double duty as the PM for the UK. Hence, with his English hat on, he actually says &#8216;England&#8217; and refers to it as a &#8216;nation&#8217; (quite a staggering thing to emerge from the mouth of our leader and highly untypical of him); and with his British hat on, what was previously attributed to England (the invention of football) now gets reattributed to the UK. At least, in his statement today, GB didn&#8217;t have the gall to refer to the UK as a &#8216;nation&#8217;.</p>
<p>Just another example of Brown&#8217;s appropriation of English identity and history to Britain when it suits his unionist agenda. And, believe you me, the Olympics are going to become an almighty battleground between nationalists and unionists in the run up to 2012! As I argued in my previous post, the unionists are going to try to exploit the success of Team GB at Beijing and the hosting of the Games in London in 2012 for all their worth to try to whip up British patriotic fervour (in England, mainly, of course), and to slow or even halt the progress to a pro-independence referendum in Scotland that could break up GB (or should that be UK?) in the most humiliating fashion just as it was about to put on an event calculated to portray GB / UK as a united, proud and great nation!</p>
<p>As the great Scottish manager of Liverpool, Bill Shankly, once said: &#8220;football is not a matter of life and death; it&#8217;s more serious than that&#8221; (or words to that effect). In similar vein, putting together a football Team UK is about more than football: it&#8217;s about keeping the UK together, which means denying England&#8217;s distinct identity and traditions &#8211; some of the most cherished of which are those of football. Olympic Games (Team UK) or World Cup (England): I know which matters more to me.</p>
<p>So hands off our national team<em><strong>s</strong></em>, GB!</p>
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		<title>Team GB&#8217;s Olympic Success: Should We Be Proud?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose this morning&#8217;s newspaper headlines were inevitable: &#8216;It&#8217;s great to be British!&#8217;; &#8216;Britannia rules the Games!&#8217;. It was, after all, a terrific weekend of success for Team GB at the Beijing Olympics, and Great Britain sat in third place in the medals table at the end of Sunday&#8217;s events: an unwonted sporting triumph for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=britologywatch.wordpress.com&blog=1225690&post=149&subd=britologywatch&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I suppose this morning&#8217;s newspaper headlines were inevitable: &#8216;It&#8217;s great to be British!&#8217;; &#8216;Britannia rules the Games!&#8217;. It was, after all, a terrific weekend of success for Team GB at the Beijing Olympics, and Great Britain sat in third place in the medals table at the end of Sunday&#8217;s events: an unwonted sporting triumph for &#8216;the country&#8217;, indeed!</p>
<p>That other GB, Gordon Brown, inevitably chimed in. The inappropriate headline I came across in Yahoo! News read, &#8220;Brown hails UK&#8217;s golden weekend&#8221;. Inappropriate because there was no mention of the UK as such in the article&#8217;s quotes from Gordon:</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to send my congratulations to Team GB on this golden weekend for British sport. Eight gold medals and seventeen medals in total in one weekend is a superb and unprecedented achievement. The whole country has been watching and has been thrilled by Team GB. We are immensely proud of what they have achieved so far, and inspired by their performance. Our Olympians&#8217; talent and dedication represent the very best of Britain and we look forward to another great week of British sporting success&#8221;.</p>
<p>Britain, Britain, Britain. Well, I suppose I should stop being a (typically British, English?) misery guts and should just be proud of our sportsmen&#8217;s and sportswomen&#8217;s successes, as GB says. And, indeed, I was and am proud, not least &#8211; but also not only &#8211; because the great majority of those medal-winning contestants were English. In most patriotic English people, indeed, rare victories such as these stir up those old sentiments of being &#8216;proud to be British&#8217; - feelings suffused with memories of our once routinely &#8216;world-beating&#8217; Empire. This is the way English patriotism has traditionally been expressed; and it&#8217;s a more obviously English-British patriotism now than ever, as one no longer feels that the triumphs of the Scottish medal winners (such as triple gold medal-winning cyclist Chris Hoy) really quite belong to &#8216;us&#8217; (i.e. to us English) any more, if they ever did. In fact, I&#8217;m sure that the Scottish media are following and proclaiming the successes of Scottish contestants <em>as </em>Scottish victories in the first instance, and then British only secondarily. No such possibility of celebrating English success: no, that&#8217;s British.</p>
<p>The political dividends of all this are obvious; hence, the intervention of GB (the Prime Minister, that is). It&#8217;s a chance to reaffirm and orchestrate English people&#8217;s identification with Britain as &#8216;the country&#8217;, in our leader&#8217;s favourite phrase. As usual, however, this technically misses out Northern Ireland, as the PM is wont to do. In this instance, he&#8217;s got official &#8216;permission&#8217; to do so in that &#8216;the country&#8217; is indeed referred to as &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; in the Games, not as the UK. This is one of those historical anomalies. Apparently, people from Northern Ireland can opt to represent the Republic of Ireland, if they wish, so it is in fact only fully a Great British team; plus &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; (initials GBR) was the name adopted for the UK team by the International Olympics Committee for the 1908 Games. However, clearly, calling the team &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; facilitates all those stirrings of patriotic emotion, as one calls to mind the &#8216;greatness&#8217; of the Empire. In addition, &#8216;Britain&#8217; carries the overtones of nationhood; while &#8216;the UK&#8217; reminds us that &#8216;the country&#8217; is merely a state, not a nation.</p>
<p>The ultimate political agenda really converges on the 2012 Olympics: will the country still be represented by Team GB (possibly, for the last time); or will these be the first Games where there will be separate teams for Scotland and &#8211; what? &#8211; the United Kingdom (of England, Wales and Northern Ireland)? Or, if you follow the rationale for calling the present UK team &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; (i.e. it diplomatically leaves the dual allegiances of Northern Irish people out of play), would this be a &#8216;Team England &amp; Wales&#8217;, or even separate English and Welsh teams (whether for sporting reasons only or because England and Wales had separated politically, too)? Let&#8217;s just hope that they wouldn&#8217;t try to continue calling an England / Wales team &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t put it past them! More importantly, if Scotland has gained its independence by then, the London Olympics will not be the British Games at all; but the &#8211; yes &#8211; English Games (as are, let us remember, half the sports involved &#8211; English inventions, that is).</p>
<p>Heaven forbid! Such a possibility must be ruled out and prevented at all costs! Billions of pounds of costs, in fact, in hosting the 2012 Games. Just as the 2008 Games are China&#8217;s chance to present a modernised, benign image to the world &#8211; forgetting about the would-be independent regions of Tibet and Xinjiang &#8211; so the London Olympics are the UK government&#8217;s lifeline for holding on to at least the idea of a unified Britain beyond the likely Scottish referendum dates of 2010 or 2011. &#8216;If we can just use the present Games to rekindle pride in Great Britain&#8217;, you can hear the politicians say, &#8216;then we might be able to get &#8220;the whole country&#8221; to rally round the task of putting on the &#8220;best Games ever&#8221; in London 2012; and then, who knows, we might have succeeded in whipping up so much renewed pride in being British, that the Union might just survive&#8217;.</p>
<p>The bet is on. Will the 2012 Olympics be &#8216;Britain&#8217;s showcase&#8217; or its swansong? You can bet your life, however, that the politicians will do their utmost to prevent &#8216;Great Britain&#8217; from breaking up before 2012! After all, if we want to finish fourth in the medals table that year, we couldn&#8217;t do so as just England, could we? I wouldn&#8217;t bet on <em>that</em> not happening, though!</p>
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